The Ryzen 7 8700F and Ryzen 5 8400F desktop processors will actually be available through the retail PIB channel, according to AMD. The “F” in the model name comes from the fact that both of these CPUs are built on the 4 nm “Hawk Point” or “Phoenix 2” silicon, but without an iGPU. The web was breached by company slides pertaining to the two. The processors are constructed in the Socket AM5 packaging and have CPU cores based on the “Zen 4” microarchitecture.

With a boost frequency of only 5.00 GHz (as opposed to 5.10 GHz for the 8700G), the Ryzen 7 8700F has the same 8-core/16-thread “Zen 4” CPU as the 8700G. Its NPU is operational even though its iGPU is deactivated. There are 16 AI TOPS in performance with the Ryzen AI NPU. The processor still uses the 8700G’s 65 W TDP. Now let’s look at the 8400G, which has six CPU cores and is based on the “Phoenix 2” technology. Four of these are “Zen 4c,” and they run at lower clock speeds. The other two are “Zen 4,” and they can achieve the processor’s maximum boost frequency of 4.70 GHz. The chip has no NPU in the physical sense, and its iGPU is turned off. Its CPU cores can still be fed with 65 W TDP. Both CPUs come with a Wraith Stealth cooling solution designed for 65 W TDP processors in their retail packaging.

Regarding performance, AMD states that in the six productivity and six game tests it conducted, the Ryzen 7 8700F outperforms the Intel Core i5-14400F by ranging from 10% to 24%. In contrast, AMD states that the 8400F provides 1%–14% better gaming performance than the Core i5-13400F.

Although AMD hasn’t formally introduced these CPUs, a release may be coming soon. Both should be substantially less expensive than the 8700G and 8500G, respectively.